Photoshop CS4: The Missing Manual

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1st and 2nd graf

Change bio to read: Lesa Snider is on a mission to teach the world to create—and use—better graphics. She's a stock photographer and chief evangelist for iStockphoto.com and founder of the creative tutorial site GraphicReporter.com. Lesa is the author of many video training titles including Graphic Secrets for Business Professionals (Lynda.com), From Photo to Graphic Art, Practical Photoshop Elements, and Elements 8 for Photographers (KelbyTraining.com). She writes the Graphic Secrets column for Photoshop User magazine (PhotoshopUser.com), and contributes regularly to Macworld magazine (Macworld.com), CreativePro.com, Design Tools Monthly (Design-Tools.com) and Elements Techniques magazine (ElementsUser.com), of which she is also contributing editor. Lesa is a proud member of the Photoshop World Dream Team of instructors and teaches image editing and design at many other conferences such as Macworld Expo, Graphics of the Americas, Santa Fe Workshops, the UCDA Design Conference, Mac Mania Cruises, and more. During her free time, you'll find her carving the twisties on her sportbike, watching MotoGP, playing Rock Band, or hanging with fellow Apple Mac enthusiasts. Lesa is a proud member of the BMWMOA, F800 Riders Club, the Official Valentino Rossi Fan Club, and the Colorado Macintosh User Group (CoMUG.com).

Note from the Author or Editor:
Lesa Snider is on a mission to teach the world to create—and use—better graphics. She's a stock photographer and chief evangelist for iStockphoto.com and founder of the creative tutorial site GraphicReporter.com. Lesa is the author of many video training titles including Graphic Secrets for Business Professionals (Lynda.com), From Photo to Graphic Art, Practical Photoshop Elements, and Elements 8 for Photographers (KelbyTraining.com). She writes the Graphic Secrets column for Photoshop User magazine (PhotoshopUser.com), and contributes regularly to Macworld magazine (Macworld.com), CreativePro.com, Design Tools Monthly (Design-Tools.com) and Elements Techniques magazine (ElementsUser.com), of which she is also contributing editor. Lesa is a proud member of the Photoshop World Dream Team of instructors and teaches image editing and design at many other conferences such as Macworld Expo, Graphics of the Americas, Santa Fe Workshops, the UCDA Design Conference, Mac Mania Cruises, and more. During her free time, you'll find her carving the twisties on her sportbike, watching MotoGP, playing Rock Band, or hanging with fellow Apple Mac enthusiasts. Lesa is a proud member of the BMWMOA, F800 Riders Club, the Official Valentino Rossi Fan Club, and the Colorado Macintosh User Group (CoMUG.com).

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Photoshop CS4: The Missing Manual Errata Page 100: Visibility captures the layer Opacity, Fill and whether Show or Hide Position captures where the pixels are on the layer, not the layer stacking order Page 101, second paragraph: opacity and fill are captured by Photoshop Page 103, second paragraph: should be: “You can’t resize former Smart Objects and shape layers …” Page 117: middle of page: “As a bonus, Photoshop will run a little faster because the document’s file size decreases… “ – the file size increases because the original data is stored in addition to the changes. Page 118, TIP: should be: Layer > New > Layer Via Copy Also, it is not in the Layers panel menu. Page 123, Figure 3-33: “When you click OK, Photoshop saves your style for prosperity in the Styles panel.” No, it is only in the Preferences Settings file and can be easily lost, for example, by the Reset Styles command. Page 131, step 2: Unless it is a Background layer, locking a layer does not prevent you from changing its stacking order. Page 136, step 5: not “layer thumbnail”, but “vector mask thumbnail” Page 159: Defringe does not delete pixels. It replaces the color of the edge pixels with the color of the pixels just interior to them. Larger values do not seem to work any differently than 1 px. Page 184: a channel – light areas represent reds, dark areas represent greens b channel – light areas represent yellows, dark areas represent blues Page 185, NOTE: You can drag alpha channels between documents that have different pixel dimensions. Page 228, Table 6-1, Desktop laser printer: resolution specified is for line art only. For color or grayscale, the image resolution should be about one-third of the printer’s resolution. Pages 233-234: The textbook claims that using the Image Size dialog box before using Save For Web and Devices produces a smaller file size. I found that true only some of the time. Page 241, bottom paragraph: To switch between portrait and landscape orientation use Image > Image Rotation > 90º CW (or 90º CCW) Page 242: Missing the step, after opening the image, to duplicate the Background layer. CAS doesn’t work on the Background layer unless Select All first. Page 244: Missing the step, before step 6, to deselect the selection. Page 246, second NOTE: Free Transform lets you perform some of the transformations. Page 295, step 7: should be: “Click the circle-within-the-box symbol at the bottom…” Page 325, near bottom: should be: “If you drag a slider to the right, you shift the color in the pop-up menu toward that color. And …” Page 327, near top: should be: “or choose Merged if the source image contains multiple layers; “ Page 335, middle: should be: “steps 1-3 on page 313, “ Page 353, step 8: should be: “Page 344” Page 358, NOTE at top: It says you can’t reset the white balance of JPEGs or TIFFs, but the white balance does have presets for As Shot, Auto, and Custom. Page 359: Figure 9-9 is missing the Targeted Adjustment Tool found in the current version of Camera Raw. Page 369, middle: says if you drag the sliders it will use the colors you set as your black and white targets back on page 341. Should be pages 342-345. However, these targets are not used by the sliders, but only by the Auto commands or the eyedroppers and Auto button in Levels and Curves. Page 371, TIP: should be: page 373 Page 376, step 6: should be: (step 8 on page 344) … (Figure 9-15, page 368). My understanding is that adjusting target values is only necessary if you need “to bring the important shadow and highlight details within the gamut of the output device. If you are printing an image on a desktop printer and your system is color-managed, you don’t need to set target values.” (from Photoshop Help) Therefore, it would not be necessary to set target values as a general practice and would probably be best done by using the Output Levels sliders (top of page 370). I would also discourage setting target values using the textbook’s method since depending on the image, it may cause too much clipping or not increase contrast optimally. Page 381, text at bottom of Figure 9-21: Lowering the Input value from 213 to 201 would actually lighten the image. It is because the Output value dropped much more that the image darkened. It would be less confusing to keep the Input value the same in the before and after especially since the instructions say to drag downward, not downward and left. Page 447, TIP: should be: “when you’re tweaking Amount).” Page 543, in box: should be: “ • Save a file as any format other than PSD, Photoshop PDF or EPS.” (see pages 532, 620, and note there is a distinction between a Photoshop PDF and a generic PDF) “If you save a file in EPS PDF, or DCS format …” “Watch out though, if you open any of these file types again in Photoshop, the program will automatically rasterize the text” – not true for PSD and Photoshop PDF. Can also File > Place and Open as a Smart Object to preserve the vector data in EPS and AI. Page 592, step 6: should be: Figure 15-3, above. Page 697, TIP: should be: A red checkmark means that one or more steps in the action are unchecked. Page 698, above middle: should be: “Now, instead of selecting an action …” Page 741, bottom: “To do that, choose Show Rejected Items Only from the Filter Items by Rating button and then choose File > Delete. (for Windows at least) Errors related to the color wheel Page 329, Inverting Colors: should be: “ turning orange to cyan, yellow to blue, and so on “ Page 331, Figure 8-21: should be “blue into yellow” Pages 450-451: With the exception of the Kuler panel, the color wheel depicted is not the one used by Photoshop. The correct color wheel is the one shown in Photoshop Help. To see the correct complementary colors, use the Invert adjustment layer.

bpurcell  Jan 04, 2010 
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24, 20/23

Error 1 Page 24: Under the section titled "Changing How Far Back You Can Go", step 1 states to click "Photoshop --> Preferences". There is no menu item named "Photoshop" to click on. It's actually "Edit --> Preferences". Error 2 Page 20 & 23: This is not an error, just language use. Page 20: under description of the Tools Panel, the 1st sentence reads "The most important panel in Photoshop is the one named Tools" Then on page 24, under Layers, "The Layers panel is the single most important panel in Photoshop". So which one is most important? Just kidding. Thought I'd bring that up. I'm a beginner user of PS and so far found your book to be awesome. Thanks for making it happen. Other books are too confusing for a novice like myself.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Page 23, under "Layers" subhead, change 1st sentence from "The Layers panel is the single most important panel in Photoshop." to read "The Layers panel is home to the single most important concept in Photoshop." Page 24, under "Changing How Far Back..." subhead, under numeral 1, change 2nd to last sentence from "On a PC, choosing Photoshop > Preferences..." this should read: "On a PC, choosing Edit > Preferences..."

Anonymous  Jul 06, 2009 
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Page 7
bullet #2

It says to read Appendix A about Adobe Bridge while Adobe Bridge is explained in Appendix C.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "...Appendix A about Adobe Bridge" to read "...Appendix C about Adobe Bridge."

Anonymous  Mar 31, 2009 
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Page 12
Tip

"click the red dot to..." (to shrink the window down onto the dock) red dot closes the window, yellow one shrinks it onto the dock, I think, for Mac's

Note from the Author or Editor:
Tip, 2nd sentence, change "red dot" to "yellow dot"

Anonymous  Oct 03, 2009 
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Page 15
Figure 1-4

Text and images don't correlate, e.g., reference to "bottom top right" is nonsense. Seems to require 4 images, but there are only 3.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change figure 1-4 caption to read as follows: "The many faces of Photoshop: Standard with Application Frame (top); Full Screen with Menu Bar (bottom left); Full Screen (bottom right). Of course, you can edit your images in any mode. Also, pressing the Tab key displays menus and panels if they happen to be hidden."

rking  Jan 07, 2009 
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Page 18
above picture of collapsed panels in figure 1-6

In figure 1-6 above the picture of the collapsed panels the text reads "Click here to collapse panels horitzontally."

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change figure label from "horitzontally" to "horizontally"

Ron Whipple  Sep 15, 2009 
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Page 37
end of second paragraph

"tis chapter" for "this chapter"

Note from the Author or Editor:
2nd graf, last sentence, change "tis chapter" to "this chapter"

Anonymous  Oct 03, 2009 
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Page 41
bottom of page, next to last line

Cahpter 16fs, instead of Chapter 16fs

Note from the Author or Editor:
Last bullet, reword last part of next to last sentence & last sentence, beginning with parens. Change it to read: "(you'll learn more about that in Chapter 5). Chapter 16 has the scoop on if and when you should switch to CMYK mode.

Anonymous  Oct 03, 2009 
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Page 47
First para below bullet list

Cross reference error: Reads, "If your image is headed for a professional printer, visit Chapter 18." Should read, "visit Chapter 16." Thanks for the opportunity to submit errata (even little stuff). Thanks for having errata posted on Web. Brilliant book.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Please change in CS4 book only (it's ok in CS5): Cross reference error: Reads, "If your image is headed for a professional printer, visit Chapter 18." Should read, "visit Chapter 16."

Anonymous  Mar 11, 2010 
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Page 75
7th para, para on "all layers"

You write: Choosing Deselect --> All Layers (you guessed it) deselects everything. On my copy of Photoshop- CS4 Extended for Windows, it is "Select --> Deselect Layers" which deselects all the layers.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Please change bullet point in CS4 book on page 75, as well as CS5 book on page 80: • All layers. To select the whole kit and caboodle, choose Select➝All Layers. Choosing Select➝Deselect Layers (you guessed it) deselects everything.

T. Taylor  Apr 03, 2010 
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Page 91
Figure 3-13

Figure 3-13 - alignment tools. Right hand side - collection of tools under the heading Distribute. Group of tools to the left of Auto-align layers - 'Right edges' and 'Left edges' are labeled the wrong way round, at least according to my Tooltips! Hope this helps! Great book!! Trevor

trevorhjones  Nov 21, 2009 
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Page 94
Figure

Can't see the red arrow in the top portion of the figure

Note from the Author or Editor:
Please have production make the red line and arrow in the top portion of the figure larger so it can be seen.

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 98
Figure 3-20

A line points to the "New Layer" button, but calls it the "New Group" button.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Move the "New group" figure label over one icon to the left so it points to the folder icon, not the new layer icon.

Mark Bittner  Oct 13, 2009 
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Page 114
3rd PP under "Clipping Masks"

2nd line " Add a layer below.........." Would suggest to add the word "blank" ;i.e Add a "blank" layer below.....

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "Add a layer below it..." to read "Add a new layer below it..."

monroe Novell  Jan 07, 2009 
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Page 118
Figure 3-31

If you move the right portion of the figure below the left portion, it can be enlarged. Big waste of white space.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Please have production move the right hand portion of the figure below the left hand portion, that way we're not wasting white space and the caption column doesn't have to be so thin. In doing so, the figure caption also needs to reference "Bottom" instead of "Right"

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 120
para under point #3.

3rd line of the paragraph reads "...the biggies are changing its color by clicking the black rectabgular swatch..." should say RECTANGULAR swatch.

Note from the Author or Editor:
3rd line of the paragraph reads "...the biggies are changing its color by clicking the black rectabgular swatch..." should say RECTANGULAR swatch.

Tiffany Taylor  Apr 06, 2010 
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Page 122
first line of para 1; first line of 6

"Copy Style" should be "Copy Layer Style." "Scale Styles" should be "Scale Effect." Listing the exact Photoshop commands is important for readers who are new to Photoshop.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Please change this on page 122 of CS4 book, as well as page 131-132 in CS5 book: In bulleted list, change "Copy Style " to "Copy Layer Style" and "Scale Styles" to "Scale Effects"

Tiffany Taylor  Apr 06, 2010 
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Page 123
Figure 3-33

Move right hand portion of figure below the left hand portion. Huge waste of white space.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Move right hand portion of figure below the left hand portion. Huge waste of white space and figure label touches graphic (bad). This means the caption column doesn't have to be so thin. Also, the figure label in the caption is actually correct, as it references "bottom".

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 136
Figure caption

References other ways to use the rounded rectangle tool to create a mask.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Add the following text as a 2nd graf in the figure caption: Of course, there are other ways to create this same effect, such as using a Vector mask. Trot on over to pages 527-529 for the nitty-gritty.

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 155
4th para from top of page, in section on "using the tools together"

You say the tip on the spring-loaded tools is on page 23, but it is actually on page 21.

Note from the Author or Editor:
This is for CS4 book only (it's ok in CS5): Change page ref for spring-loaded tools to page 21.

Tiffany  May 09, 2010 
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Page 159
Figure 4-19

Can't see red arrow in bottom portion of figure

Note from the Author or Editor:
Make the red arrow in the bottom portion of the figure larger so it can be seen. The line portion also looks like another darker color of red. Weird!

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 183
Lab Channels>a.

Channel a contains magenta and green information, rather than red and green information. Reference: "Photoshop LAB Color" by Dan Margulis, which is the text I use and recommend to my students at The Cooper Union. I consider it the Lab Bible. Thank you for sending this inspection copy of "The Missing Manual, Photoshop CS4". It arrived moments ago and by chance opened to this page. I have not read the book yet but am looking forward to it. Probably just my luck to notice the only inconsistency in the manual. --Prof. Norman Sanders

Note from the Author or Editor:
Page 183, under "Lab Channels" subhead, bullet number "a", change sentence from "...a mixture of red and green" to "...a mixture of magenta (think red) and green." Page 184, change figure label from "a (red and green)" to "a (magenta and green)". In figure caption, change "reds" to "magentas"

Norman Sanders  May 28, 2009 
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Page 186
Creating an Alpha Channel; please refer to 1st paragraph

Pg 186 (Creating an Alpha Channel) .......the black parts of the channel indicate the unselected part of your image-also referred to as the protected or masked part-and the selection itself is white (........................ However, if you refer to page 187, Figure 5-6 shows the selection (i.e., the hat) as black! Shouldn't the selection (i.e., the hat) be white (because you haven't reverse the colors yet)?

Note from the Author or Editor:
Page 186, under "creating an alpha channel" subhead, change 2nd sentence parens "see page 187 to learn..." to "see page 188 to learn..." Page 187 add the following to the figure caption as a new graf. "As mentioned, you can make make your selections appear black instead of white, as shown here. Flip to page 188 for the scoop."

Gerard Lai  Sep 14, 2009 
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Page 195
last paragraph of box

Typo. Change "...Photoshop turns the gray pixels back." to read "...Photoshop turns the gray pixels black."

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "...Photoshop turns the gray pixels back." to read "...Photoshop turns the gray pixels black."

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 195
last para

you write: "Now, when you paint over the hair or fur, Photoshop turns the gray pixels back." I believe you meant to say black, not back.

Note from the Author or Editor:
This was an error in the CS4 book, but not the CS5 book, & it may have already been submitted. If not, change to read: Now, when you paint over the hair or fur, Photoshop turns the gray pixels black.

Tiffany  May 09, 2010 
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Page 226
3rd paragraph of box

Should read 'another printing" not 'another inting'

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "inting" to "printing"

Bob Woolford  Mar 10, 2009 
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Page 238
under the Automated Resizing with Image Process heading, 1st para

...convert files to the JPEG, PDF or TIFF format... should say "convert files to the JPEG, PSD or TIFF format" PDF should be PSD

Note from the Author or Editor:
On page 255 (no idea why reader submitted page 238!), 1st graf beneath Automated Resizing with..., next to last sentence, change to read: It can save you tons of time whenever you need to convert files to the JPEG, PSD, or TIFF format...

Tiffany Taylor  May 11, 2010 
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Page 304
Last paragraph

Change Black & White adjustment layer reference from CS3 to CS2.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change in last graf, 1st sentence. Change "...but if you're using Photoshop CS3, you don't have that tool." It should read "...but if you're using Photoshop CS2, you don't have that tool."

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 376
2nd paragraph

Should read (step 8 on page 344), not page 341

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change parens "(step 8 on page 341)" to read "(step 8 on page 344)"

Bob Woolford  Feb 20, 2009 
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Page 385
1st bullet point

Keyboard shortcut error. Should be Command-2, 3, 4, 5 instead of Option-2, 3, 4, 5

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "...press Option-2..." to read "...press Command-2..."

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Feb 19, 2009 
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Page 385
1st bullet point

Should read (Ctrl+2,3,4,5,6 on a PC), not "Alt".

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change parens "(Alt+2, 3...)" to read "(Ctrl+2, 3...)"

Bob Woolford  Feb 25, 2009 
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Page 456
Figure 12-5

Figure labels too close together; hard to read

Note from the Author or Editor:
Please space out the figure labels on the right side of the figure.

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 487-488
Header of table 12-1

In Table 12-1, the header above the first column should point to Figure 12-27, not Figure 12-22.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change table header, 1st column, from "Figure 12-22" to "Figure 12-27" Make same change on page 488

Dawn Frausto  Jan 07, 2009 
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Page 528
4th Item

Item 4 says: With the Shape Layer Active, Choose Layer... It should be: 4 With the background layer active choose Layer

Note from the Author or Editor:
Page 528, item 4, change "With the Shape layer active..." to read "With the image layer active..."

Anonymous  May 16, 2009 
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Page 564
Figure 14-21

The figure shows no ligatures. Need to swap for another example.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Sending new figure to Dawn.

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 564
Figure caption

Change caption to suit new graphic.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Insert new figure caption to match what I sent to Dawn: The top line of text is in standard Adios Script Pro (a truly gorgeous OpenType font). The middle line was created using Contextual Alternates, which summons alternate letter designs depending upon where the letter falls within a word. The last line was created using the extra-flourishy Swash option. Whee!

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 632-633
both pages

Something is wrong on the color on these pages -- it's different from rest of book.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Printing problem. The color on this page spread is off. It's different from the rest of the book (looks like it has a purple cast)

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 661
line 11

480 x 600 should be 480 x 640

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change parens "(or 480 x 600)" to read "(or 480 x 640)"

allenstenger  Mar 10, 2009 
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Page 663
2nd to last paragraph “Use JPEG …. "

“…it throws away pixels to compress your image ….” The image is made up of the same number of pixels before and after it is compressed. Your statement is incorrect and helps perpetuate a misunderstanding among photographers. There should be no need to try to explain the rather complex JPEG compression process. I suggest changing the statement to something like “… it throws away fine detail in your image when compressing it into a smaller file size.”

Anonymous  Feb 16, 2010 
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Page 696
Figure 18-1

Pertaining to the image of the Actions panel, at the bottom of the panel "Create New Set" is pointing to the button for "Create New Action" ( icon with folded bottom-left corner); and, "Create New Action" is pointing to the button for "Create New Set" (folder icon). Also, I just wanted to thank everyone for producing this resource. For someone just starting out in Photoshop CS4 it is an excellent guide!

GARY ROBINSON  Jan 30, 2010 
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Page 700-701
both pages

Figures and blue page tabs appear out of registration; color is also off

Note from the Author or Editor:
Figures and blue page tabs appear out of registration; color is also off

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 704-705
both pages

Figures and blue page tabs appear out of registration; color is also off

Note from the Author or Editor:
Figures and blue page tabs appear out of registration; color is also off

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 712-713
both pages

Figures and blue page tabs appear out of registration; color is also off

Note from the Author or Editor:
Figures and blue page tabs appear out of registration; color is also off

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009 
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Page 716
2nd para 'FLUID MASK'

'plug-in helps that makes easy' should read 'plug-in that helps make', or 'plug-in that makes easy'

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "Fluid Mask is a powerful plug-in helps that makes easy work of..." to read "Fluid Mask is a powerful plug-in that helps make easy work of..."

Bob Woolford  Feb 25, 2009 
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Page 729
Line 4

Add 'you' before 'just'.

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "...Photoshop acts strangely or just can't..." to read "...Photoshop acts strangely or you just can't..."

Bob Woolford  Feb 25, 2009 
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Page 734
last bullet point

NAPP help desk isn't really 24 hrs

Note from the Author or Editor:
Change "...access to a 24-hour help desk..." to read "...access to a help desk..."

Lesa Snider
Lesa Snider
O'Reilly Author 
Oct 25, 2009