GM: Pam, we’ve talked a lot about individual dietary choices and their effect on human health. But there are also collective choices we make as a society that influence health in all kinds of ways, not least by directing, or misdirecting, the citizenry in making their individual choices. So let’s discuss public policy and propose some changes to the status quo.

PP: Well, public policy has to change because we simply cannot afford to keep spending as much as we spend on health care and expect to have either a vibrant economy or a balanced budget. It’s simply impossible. We spent $8,000 per person on health care services in 2009, the most of any country in the world by a long shot. Poor ...

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